From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Wed Mar 3 10:08:47 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:08:47 +1100 (EST) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: <199903022242.OAA12660@harker.harker.com> from "Robert Harker, 408-295-9432" at "Mar 2, 1999 2:42:27 pm" Message-ID: <199903030008.LAA02692@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Robert Harker, 408-295-9432: > I just joined the pups-digest mailing list which seemed to be PDP-11 > oriented. Is there a different mailing list for the The Unix Heritage > Society? > > And yes, I do have the original SunOS 2.x, 3.x, and 4.x software > (and maybe 1.x also). As I tell friends, "There is a Sun 100u in the > Smithsonian, but mine is older" > > Thanks in advance > RLH Hi Robert, the name is a legacy thing, feel free to talk about old Suns. If you have the old software, and we can clear things with Sun, then we could get it added into the archive here. There was a German web site which had Sun's assent to put some old SunOS versions up on the web. My email from Robert D. Keys says: Try the http://doener.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ site, and it is explained there. The guy actually got Sun to OK it, as far as I know, but I have no idea of the exact legalese involved, but memory tells me it was Sun Germany that gave the go-ahead on it. The site may have moved to http://sun3arc.krupp.net, since I was thinking a move was in progress a couple of months back. I think I got to it via a link from www.sunhelp.com or www.sunfreeware.com. Hope this helps, Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA00695 for pups-liszt; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:56:48 +1100 (EST) From rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu Thu Mar 4 01:56:18 1999 From: rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu (rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:56:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: <199903030008.LAA02692@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> from "Warren Toomey" at Mar 3, 99 11:08:47 am Message-ID: <199903031556.KAA19008@cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu> > In article by Robert Harker, 408-295-9432: > > I just joined the pups-digest mailing list which seemed to be PDP-11 > > oriented. Is there a different mailing list for the The Unix Heritage > > Society? > > > > And yes, I do have the original SunOS 2.x, 3.x, and 4.x software > > (and maybe 1.x also). As I tell friends, "There is a Sun 100u in the > > Smithsonian, but mine is older" Gee, I have been looking all over the place for some of those bits for my dinosaur VME crates (sun3/sun4). Most refreshing to know that they have not totally vaporized. > Hi Robert, the name is a legacy thing, feel free to talk about old Suns. > If you have the old software, and we can clear things with Sun, then > we could get it added into the archive here. I heartily agree with Warren on the legacy dinosaurs. Sadly, there is not enough PDP-11ish iron to feed the multitudes. The ancient VAXen and SUNtoyz are still a good way to play old time historical unix. > There was a German web site which had Sun's assent to put some old SunOS > versions up on the web. My email from Robert D. Keys > says: > > Try the http://doener.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ site, and it is explained > there. The guy actually got Sun to OK it, as far as I know, but > I have no idea of the exact legalese involved, but memory tells > me it was Sun Germany that gave the go-ahead on it. > > The site may have moved to http://sun3arc.krupp.net, since I was > thinking a move was in progress a couple of months back. > I think I got to it via a link from www.sunhelp.com or www.sunfreeware.com. Sun3arc.krupp.net is the current site. Since Sun Germany gave the go to put things up there, I wonder if Warren could look into mirroring that or Sun's allowing us to archive the early 68xxx material, too, especially if members have the bits available in their personal archives. > Hope this helps, > > Warren Just thinking out loud, but so much is going into the dumpster, that we need to be thinking in the UHS about the preservation of other legacy bits, too. Five or ten more years down the road, and all those ancient such machines will be historically important unobtainium, too. Bob Keys From beast at allitnil.df.lth.se Sun Mar 7 15:46:48 1999 From: beast at allitnil.df.lth.se (Beastly Wolf) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 06:46:48 +0100 (MET) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: <199903031556.KAA19008@cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: About old sun software. I work for Sun PS as regional manager and I have secured a stunningly large cardboard box with Sun software. It is all on tape and there is a bundle of it. If you guys can sort out the legal thing I could go through the box and send you all the non duplicate things. Would that be fun? /Lars From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Mon Mar 8 12:39:47 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:39:47 +1100 (EST) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: from Beastly Wolf at "Mar 7, 1999 6:46:48 am" Message-ID: <199903080239.NAA09367@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Beastly Wolf: > About old sun software. > I work for Sun PS as regional manager and I have secured a stunningly > large cardboard box with Sun software. > It is all on tape and there is a bundle of it. > If you guys can sort out the legal thing I could go through the box and > send you all the non duplicate things. > Would that be fun? > /Lars I've asked Billy Stivers (at Sun) to bring us up to date on his efforts to get a response from them. Warren From mjcrehan at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 16:47:28 1999 From: mjcrehan at earthlink.net (Martin Crehan) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:47:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Early Unix history online article Message-ID: <199903200647.WAA15044@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> An interesting article on the early versions of Unix can be found online at: http://www.daemonnews.org/199903/history.html The arrtcle, which is an slightly updated version originally published in Microsystems in 1984, is titled: A History of UNIX Before Berkeley: UNIX® Evolution, 1975-1984 by Ian F. Darwin and Geoffrey Collyer Martin Crehan From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Sun Mar 21 11:01:37 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:01:37 +1100 (EST) Subject: Early Unix history online article In-Reply-To: <199903200647.WAA15044@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> from Martin Crehan at "Mar 19, 1999 10:47:28 pm" Message-ID: <199903210101.MAA21348@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Martin Crehan: > An interesting article on the early versions of Unix can be found online at: > http://www.daemonnews.org/199903/history.html > The arrtcle, which is an slightly updated version originally published in > Microsystems in 1984, is titled: > A History of UNIX Before Berkeley: UNIX® Evolution, 1975-1984 > by Ian F. Darwin and Geoffrey Collyer > > Martin Crehan Thanks Martin, I've spoken to Ian and have permission to add a link to it from the PUPS/TUHS web pages. Warren From pasha at kali.com Thu Mar 25 10:29:29 1999 From: pasha at kali.com (Robert J. Kelley) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:29:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: FWD: PDP-11/83 looking for good home Message-ID: I hope someone can put this machine to good use. I'd pursue it myself but I live in Portland, OR. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Path: news!global-news-master!newsfeed.concentric.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.210.223.23!dustdevil.neo.rr.com!not-for-mail From: matuscak at rohrer.com (Joe Matuscak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: PDP-11/83 looking for good home Message-ID: X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:25:09 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.200.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse at neo.rr.com X-Trace: dustdevil.neo.rr.com 922285509 204.210.200.18 (Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:25:09 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:25:09 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Northeast Ohio Xref: news comp.sys.dec:76218 We have a PDP-11/83 system (BA123 worldbox, 2 DHQ11, RD54, TK50, LA120, LA324) that is looking for a home. It's running MicroRSTS and is working. We are located in northeast Ohio. Call or email me. Thanks, -- Joe Matuscak Rohrer Corporation 717 Seville Road Wadsworth, Ohio 44281 (330)335-1541 matuscak at rohrer.com From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Wed Mar 3 10:08:47 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:08:47 +1100 (EST) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: <199903022242.OAA12660@harker.harker.com> from "Robert Harker, 408-295-9432" at "Mar 2, 1999 2:42:27 pm" Message-ID: <199903030008.LAA02692@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Robert Harker, 408-295-9432: > I just joined the pups-digest mailing list which seemed to be PDP-11 > oriented. Is there a different mailing list for the The Unix Heritage > Society? > > And yes, I do have the original SunOS 2.x, 3.x, and 4.x software > (and maybe 1.x also). As I tell friends, "There is a Sun 100u in the > Smithsonian, but mine is older" > > Thanks in advance > RLH Hi Robert, the name is a legacy thing, feel free to talk about old Suns. If you have the old software, and we can clear things with Sun, then we could get it added into the archive here. There was a German web site which had Sun's assent to put some old SunOS versions up on the web. My email from Robert D. Keys says: Try the http://doener.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ site, and it is explained there. The guy actually got Sun to OK it, as far as I know, but I have no idea of the exact legalese involved, but memory tells me it was Sun Germany that gave the go-ahead on it. The site may have moved to http://sun3arc.krupp.net, since I was thinking a move was in progress a couple of months back. I think I got to it via a link from www.sunhelp.com or www.sunfreeware.com. Hope this helps, Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA00695 for pups-liszt; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:56:48 +1100 (EST) From rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu Thu Mar 4 01:56:18 1999 From: rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu (rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:56:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: <199903030008.LAA02692@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> from "Warren Toomey" at Mar 3, 99 11:08:47 am Message-ID: <199903031556.KAA19008@cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu> > In article by Robert Harker, 408-295-9432: > > I just joined the pups-digest mailing list which seemed to be PDP-11 > > oriented. Is there a different mailing list for the The Unix Heritage > > Society? > > > > And yes, I do have the original SunOS 2.x, 3.x, and 4.x software > > (and maybe 1.x also). As I tell friends, "There is a Sun 100u in the > > Smithsonian, but mine is older" Gee, I have been looking all over the place for some of those bits for my dinosaur VME crates (sun3/sun4). Most refreshing to know that they have not totally vaporized. > Hi Robert, the name is a legacy thing, feel free to talk about old Suns. > If you have the old software, and we can clear things with Sun, then > we could get it added into the archive here. I heartily agree with Warren on the legacy dinosaurs. Sadly, there is not enough PDP-11ish iron to feed the multitudes. The ancient VAXen and SUNtoyz are still a good way to play old time historical unix. > There was a German web site which had Sun's assent to put some old SunOS > versions up on the web. My email from Robert D. Keys > says: > > Try the http://doener.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ site, and it is explained > there. The guy actually got Sun to OK it, as far as I know, but > I have no idea of the exact legalese involved, but memory tells > me it was Sun Germany that gave the go-ahead on it. > > The site may have moved to http://sun3arc.krupp.net, since I was > thinking a move was in progress a couple of months back. > I think I got to it via a link from www.sunhelp.com or www.sunfreeware.com. Sun3arc.krupp.net is the current site. Since Sun Germany gave the go to put things up there, I wonder if Warren could look into mirroring that or Sun's allowing us to archive the early 68xxx material, too, especially if members have the bits available in their personal archives. > Hope this helps, > > Warren Just thinking out loud, but so much is going into the dumpster, that we need to be thinking in the UHS about the preservation of other legacy bits, too. Five or ten more years down the road, and all those ancient such machines will be historically important unobtainium, too. Bob Keys From beast at allitnil.df.lth.se Sun Mar 7 15:46:48 1999 From: beast at allitnil.df.lth.se (Beastly Wolf) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 06:46:48 +0100 (MET) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: <199903031556.KAA19008@cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: About old sun software. I work for Sun PS as regional manager and I have secured a stunningly large cardboard box with Sun software. It is all on tape and there is a bundle of it. If you guys can sort out the legal thing I could go through the box and send you all the non duplicate things. Would that be fun? /Lars From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Mon Mar 8 12:39:47 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:39:47 +1100 (EST) Subject: Old SunOS Software In-Reply-To: from Beastly Wolf at "Mar 7, 1999 6:46:48 am" Message-ID: <199903080239.NAA09367@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Beastly Wolf: > About old sun software. > I work for Sun PS as regional manager and I have secured a stunningly > large cardboard box with Sun software. > It is all on tape and there is a bundle of it. > If you guys can sort out the legal thing I could go through the box and > send you all the non duplicate things. > Would that be fun? > /Lars I've asked Billy Stivers (at Sun) to bring us up to date on his efforts to get a response from them. Warren From mjcrehan at earthlink.net Sat Mar 20 16:47:28 1999 From: mjcrehan at earthlink.net (Martin Crehan) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:47:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Early Unix history online article Message-ID: <199903200647.WAA15044@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> An interesting article on the early versions of Unix can be found online at: http://www.daemonnews.org/199903/history.html The arrtcle, which is an slightly updated version originally published in Microsystems in 1984, is titled: A History of UNIX Before Berkeley: UNIX® Evolution, 1975-1984 by Ian F. Darwin and Geoffrey Collyer Martin Crehan From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Sun Mar 21 11:01:37 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:01:37 +1100 (EST) Subject: Early Unix history online article In-Reply-To: <199903200647.WAA15044@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> from Martin Crehan at "Mar 19, 1999 10:47:28 pm" Message-ID: <199903210101.MAA21348@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Martin Crehan: > An interesting article on the early versions of Unix can be found online at: > http://www.daemonnews.org/199903/history.html > The arrtcle, which is an slightly updated version originally published in > Microsystems in 1984, is titled: > A History of UNIX Before Berkeley: UNIX® Evolution, 1975-1984 > by Ian F. Darwin and Geoffrey Collyer > > Martin Crehan Thanks Martin, I've spoken to Ian and have permission to add a link to it from the PUPS/TUHS web pages. Warren From pasha at kali.com Thu Mar 25 10:29:29 1999 From: pasha at kali.com (Robert J. Kelley) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:29:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: FWD: PDP-11/83 looking for good home Message-ID: I hope someone can put this machine to good use. I'd pursue it myself but I live in Portland, OR. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Path: news!global-news-master!newsfeed.concentric.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.210.223.23!dustdevil.neo.rr.com!not-for-mail From: matuscak at rohrer.com (Joe Matuscak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: PDP-11/83 looking for good home Message-ID: X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:25:09 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.200.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse at neo.rr.com X-Trace: dustdevil.neo.rr.com 922285509 204.210.200.18 (Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:25:09 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:25:09 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Northeast Ohio Xref: news comp.sys.dec:76218 We have a PDP-11/83 system (BA123 worldbox, 2 DHQ11, RD54, TK50, LA120, LA324) that is looking for a home. It's running MicroRSTS and is working. We are located in northeast Ohio. Call or email me. Thanks, -- Joe Matuscak Rohrer Corporation 717 Seville Road Wadsworth, Ohio 44281 (330)335-1541 matuscak at rohrer.com