From ken.unix.guy at gmail.com Sat Apr 1 01:03:11 2023 From: ken.unix.guy at gmail.com (KenUnix) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 11:03:11 -0400 Subject: [COFF] Restarting 3b2/400 Network Install Unix V r3 Message-ID: Hi. I made an error on data entry installing TCP Networking on a 3b2/400 on a SIM. Is there a way to re-start the CONFIGURATION process without having to start over from scratch re-installing the entire system? The section covering hostname,host's network number, etc. Thanks, Ken -- WWL 📚 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au Sun Apr 2 10:08:24 2023 From: sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au (steve jenkin) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 10:08:24 +1000 Subject: [COFF] [TUHS] Warning: April Fools In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73FC4C4C-7479-4747-A528-3A49BB62752C@canb.auug.org.au> [ Please post follow-ups to COFF ] Ron, Thanks for the history, enjoyed very much. Quite relevant to Early Unix, intertwined with VAxen, IP stack from UCB, NSF-net & fakery. The earliest documented Trojan, Unix or not, would be Ken’s login/cc hack in his “Reflections on Trust” paper. It was 1986 when Clifford Stoll tracked a KGB recruit who broke into MILNET, then the first “honeynet” by Stoll. 1986 was also the first known PC virus according to Kaspersky. The SANS Institute was formed the next year, 1989, creating structured training & security materials. This structured, co-ordinated response, led by technical folk, not NatSec/ Intelligence/ Criminal investigation bodies, created CVE’s, Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures, as a way to identify & name unique attacks & vectors, track them and make vendors aware, forcing publicity & responses. The Internet eventually became a significant theatre of Crime & Espionage, Commercial & National Security. Mandiant was formed in 2004 to identify, track and find sources of APT’s, Advanced Persistent Threats. In 2010, they described APT’s tracked in their “M-trends” newsletter. in Feb 2013, Mandiant publicly described “APT1” and the military unit & location they believed ran it. ============= > On 2 Apr 2023, at 02:34, Ron Natalie wrote: > > Once again, I must dredge up this post from 1991…. ============= For future reference, Kremvax lives! [ datestamp in email header ] iMac1:steve$ host kremvax.demos.su kremvax.demos.su has address 194.87.0.20 kremvax.demos.su mail is handled by 100 relay2.demos.su. kremvax.demos.su mail is handled by 50 relay1.demos.su. iMac1:steve$ ping -c2 kremvax.demos.su PING kremvax.demos.su (194.87.0.20): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 194.87.0.20: icmp_seq=0 ttl=46 time=336.127 ms 64 bytes from 194.87.0.20: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=335.823 ms --- kremvax.demos.su ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 335.823/335.975/336.127/0.152 ms ============= -- Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915) PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA mailto:sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin From cowan at ccil.org Mon Apr 3 01:53:03 2023 From: cowan at ccil.org (John Cowan) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 11:53:03 -0400 Subject: [COFF] Fwd: [TUHS] Re: Warning: April Fools In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I sent this to coff, but it bounced. Trying again. [-tuhs] [+coff] On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 3:39 AM Noel Hunt wrote: Charles li reis, nostre emperesdre magnes, Set anz totz pleinz ad ested in > Espagnes. > > A translation would be most helpful. It looks like a mixture > of Spanish and Mediaevel French...ah, it is the La Chanson de > Roland. > Yes, it's Old French, and means "Charles the king, our great emperor[*] / Seven full years has been in Spain." You pronounce it pretty much like Spanish, except for the "z" which is pronounced "ts". [*] Old French had two noun cases, nominative and oblique (a combination of the Latin genitive, dative, accusative, and ablative). In 99% of modern French nouns, only the oblique survives. In particular, "emperesdre" is the old nominative of "empereor"; it survives today in the name "L[']empriere". A dozen nouns picked up different semantics in the nominative and both survived: sire/seigneur, prêtre/Provoire (proper name), copain/compagnon, pâtre/pasteur, chantre/chanteur , maire/majeur, gars/garçon, and (most surprising) on/homme. In a few nouns, only the nominative survives: soeur, peintre, traître (English traitor is from the oblique), and the names Charles, Georges, James (now in English only), Hugues, Marie, and Eve. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken.unix.guy at gmail.com Mon Apr 3 04:43:14 2023 From: ken.unix.guy at gmail.com (KenUnix) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 14:43:14 -0400 Subject: [COFF] 3b2/400 inbound connectivity Message-ID: I have a 3b2/400 emulator running Unix V r3 fine, but I have two questions. Unix is set up with IP 10.0.2.15 I can telnet off it great *but* can not telnet into it. Is there a step I am missing? In the sim ini file I have set: set NI enabled attach NI nat: Someone suggested: attach nat:tcp=2323:10.0.2.15:23,tcp=2121:10.0.2.15:21 but that did not work. This is what I get at boot time: NAT args: NAT network setup: gateway =10.0.2.2/24(255.255.255.0) DNS =10.0.2.3 dhcp_start =10.0.2.15 Protocol[State] FD Source Address Port Dest. Address Port RecvQ SendQ /home/ken/MYSIMS/System-V-r3/boot.ini-51> attach NI nat: %SIM-INFO: Eth: opened OS device nat: Thanks, Ken -- WWL 📚 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coff at tuhs.org Mon Apr 3 15:08:43 2023 From: coff at tuhs.org (segaloco via COFF) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2023 05:08:43 +0000 Subject: [COFF] 3b2/400 inbound connectivity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's not exactly the same but if you want something you can somewhat refer to, the Living Computer Museum has an AT&T 3B2/1000 online running SVR3: https://wiki.livingcomputers.org/doku.php?id=at_t_3b2_1000-70 I seem to recall being able to connect in the past but I can't seem to get in via the guest account right now. In any case, if you can get connected over there that might be a valuable source of configuration examples to study. - Matt G. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, April 2nd, 2023 at 11:43 AM, KenUnix wrote: > I have a 3b2/400 emulator running Unix V r3 fine, > but I have two questions. > > Unix is set up with IP 10.0.2.15 > > I can telnet off it great but can not telnet into it. Is there a step I > am missing? > > In the sim ini file I have set: > > set NI enabled > attach NI nat: > > Someone suggested: > > attach nat:tcp=2323:10.0.2.15:23,tcp=2121:10.0.2.15:21 > > but that did not work. > > This is what I get at boot time: > > NAT args: > NAT network setup: > gateway =10.0.2.2/24(255.255.255.0) > DNS =10.0.2.3 > dhcp_start =10.0.2.15 > Protocol[State] FD Source Address Port Dest. Address Port RecvQ SendQ > /home/ken/MYSIMS/System-V-r3/boot.ini-51> attach NI nat: > %SIM-INFO: Eth: opened OS device nat: > > Thanks, > Ken > > -- > > WWL 📚 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lars at nocrew.org Sat Apr 8 01:21:19 2023 From: lars at nocrew.org (Lars Brinkhoff) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 15:21:19 +0000 Subject: [COFF] CWRU Univac artifacs Message-ID: <7w1qkvu39s.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Hello, I received word from someone who went to Case Wester Reserve Univsersity, and is willing to send early 1970s ephemera to someone interested in going through it. The description is: "I've go stuff from my course work done on our Univac 1108/ChiOS system, program listing, cpu code cards, etc." Any takers? Best regards, Lars Brinkhoff From chet.ramey at case.edu Sat Apr 8 04:02:13 2023 From: chet.ramey at case.edu (Chet Ramey) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 14:02:13 -0400 Subject: [COFF] CWRU Univac artifacs In-Reply-To: <7w1qkvu39s.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <7w1qkvu39s.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Message-ID: On 4/7/23 11:21 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Hello, > > I received word from someone who went to Case Wester Reserve > Univsersity, and is willing to send early 1970s ephemera to someone > interested in going through it. The description is: > > "I've go stuff from my course work done on our Univac 1108/ChiOS system, > program listing, cpu code cards, etc." Hi. I don't know who contacted you, but you might ask them to consider contacting CWRU Thinkbox or the University Archivist to ask whether or not the University would be interested in those artifacts. https://case.edu/thinkbox thinkbox at case.edu https://case.edu/its/archives/ https://case.edu/library/research/special-collections-archives/university-archives archives at case.edu Chet -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet at case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/ From ken.unix.guy at gmail.com Sat Apr 8 08:01:27 2023 From: ken.unix.guy at gmail.com (KenUnix) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 18:01:27 -0400 Subject: [COFF] Unix on a 3B2-700 won't boot Message-ID: *Unix on a 3B2-700 won't boot* I have been going round and round getting it to boot and am at the point where it might be the sd630.img disk image. It keeps hanging in "DIAGNOSTICS". I have reloaded all the files to no avail. Does anyone have a *known working copy* of *sd630.img* they could share as a gzip ? Other sims work fine like 3b2-400, Interdata-32 and PDP-11. Ken -- WWL 📚 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lars at nocrew.org Sat Apr 8 17:16:02 2023 From: lars at nocrew.org (Lars Brinkhoff) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 07:16:02 +0000 Subject: [COFF] [TUHS] CWRU Univac artifacs In-Reply-To: (John Cowan's message of "Fri, 7 Apr 2023 17:35:11 -0400") References: <7wo7nzshci.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Message-ID: <7w7cumsv2l.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Apologies, this was meant to go to another mailing list. I also posted to COFF, so send any follow-ups there. John Cowan wrote: > I attended CRWU in 1975-76 and programmed the 1108 (abs, alphabetic, arccos, > arcsin, arctan) with punch cards so I am definitely interested if the > material is still available. Thank you, I'll fill you in on the details. From cowan at ccil.org Sun Apr 9 00:57:49 2023 From: cowan at ccil.org (John Cowan) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 10:57:49 -0400 Subject: [COFF] [TUHS] CWRU Univac artifacs In-Reply-To: <7w7cumsv2l.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <7wo7nzshci.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <7w7cumsv2l.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Message-ID: Great, thanks! My mailing address is: John Cowan 13 East 3rd St. #2A New York NY 10003 On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 3:16 AM Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Apologies, this was meant to go to another mailing list. I also posted > to COFF, so send any follow-ups there. > > John Cowan wrote: > > I attended CRWU in 1975-76 and programmed the 1108 (abs, alphabetic, > arccos, > > arcsin, arctan) with punch cards so I am definitely interested if the > > material is still available. > > Thank you, I'll fill you in on the details. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coff at tuhs.org Sat Apr 22 10:20:30 2023 From: coff at tuhs.org (segaloco via COFF) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 00:20:30 -0000 Subject: [COFF] IBM OS ANSI Standard COBOL May 15, 1974 Update Docs Message-ID: I've just today received a COBOL manual I ordered to find quite the nice surprise. The manual itself is: "IBM OS Full American National Standard COBOL". It is listed as File No. S360-24, Order No. GC28-6396-4. On the back of the first page this is noted as the "Fifth Edition (September 1973)" and that the current edition "is a reprint of GC28-6396-3, incorporating changes released in TNL GN28-1002." Copyright year chain ends at 1972. However, in addition to this manual are three addenda: The first is a memo from Tim S. "Systems Analyst", addressed to and cc'd to a few folks, providing an up-to-date listing (as of March 12*, 1976) of IBM System Reference Library materials. The attachment includes, among other things, documents for S/360, S/370, OS/360, BOS/360, OS/VS, and programming and diagnostic utilities. Each reference includes a volume number and an "SRL", the definition I couldn't find, but presumably just a catalog number of some kind. The second is a scan of a 31 page, hand-written document titled "COBOL Compiler Release 2.2" providing information on the "March 11, 1979, Release 2.2 of the COBOL compiler...IBM's implementation of the ANSI 1974 Standard for COBOL. The previous Release 1.1 implemented the 1968 ANSI Standard." The document goes on to detail numerous changes between these revisions. Lastly is a Technical Newsletter bearing the same File and Order numbers as the full manual, but with a date of May 15, 1974 and newsletter number of GN28-1048. This page bears a copyright chain out to 1974 and is simply a set of replacement pages for the manual, as was common at the time. The text indicates that all changes are denoted with a vertical bar printed to the left of the change, so this essentially is a diff between the Fifth Edition manual above and...wait for it..."Fourth Edition (May 1972); Fifth Edition (September 1973)". Strangely the copyright notice on the back still indicates the same edition, but adds reference back to the Fourth Edition as well. Strange, one of life's little mysteries? In any case, the copyright chain here is only out to 1973. Never sure how much that means at any given instant. In any case, I couldn't find any evidence in the manual-proper of previous such updates being applied, in other words, no vertical bars spotted flipping through the pages at least. Both the replacement pages and the catalog are still stapled together, and the manual-proper still contains the pages (that I spot checked) slated for replacement. It seems the original was even bound itself at one point, indicated by the ghost of a glued spine still lingering on the end of the pages, but both the replacement pages and manual itself also have 3-hole punches and are bound in an Acco binder. If the manual had a true cover, it's long gone. Figured I'd share some of those details in case anything in this is in want of further illumination. For the record, the Sixth and Seventh editions of this same document appear to be on archive.org. I haven't plumbed their depths searching for evidence of aforementioned diff pages, they're probably just scans of complete published copies. So all of this for me at least begs the question, is there any sort of equivalent to TROFF sources for documents from the Big Blue? Truth be told, I only ordered this to have a paper COBOL reference on hand, if one should ever need such a thing. If there are such document sources, I'd happily add "patching" them to produce a restoration of this to my studies. At the very least the two smaller addenda will get a scan here pretty soon. - Matt G. P.S. While my main focus is Bell UNIX documentation, I do peek around for stuff like this time to time, but I'm much less inclined to spring for something without some functional value to me. That said, I'm looking for documents all the time, so if anyone has any tips on stuff that isn't well preserved in the public record that I should add to my searches time to time, I'm happy to keep an eye out. I'm coming to quite enjoy finding things and getting them on the record.